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On Thu, 12 Sep 2002, Tom wrote:

> Yep, that ws the plan all alng with my typos, I am the only one to be
> consistently fighting the evls of da vore.

Well, yeah, but there's an easier way.
	
	http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=STARTTLS&spell=1

There's still MITM, but it requires a far higher capability, and is easier
to detect once you go beyond the scamed interaction of two parties, since
being manipulative in principle.

If you run your own mailserver, or have a say in what your host does, make 
him adopt STARTTLS.


